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Civetta Elder
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| Subject: Re: Learning HINDI Wed Mar 19, 2008 6:34 am | |
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| | | Civetta Elder
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| Subject: Re: Learning HINDI Wed Mar 19, 2008 6:38 am | |
| i think you are right
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| | | Civetta Elder
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| Subject: Re: Learning HINDI Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:32 am | |
| Âîò, ñòèáðèëà ñ êàêîãî-òî ôîðóìà [À] – êðàòêèé ãëàñíûé çâóê è ïðîèçíîñèòñÿ êàê ðóññêîå [à] â óäàðíîé ïîçèöèè ìåæäó òâåðäûìè ñîãëàñíûìè (íàïðèìåð, â ñëîâàõ «âàð» è «ñàä»). Êðîìå òîãî, êðàòêèé ãëàñíûé [À] âõîäèò â çíàê ñîãëàñíîãî è íå âñåãäà ïðîèçíîñèòñÿ è òðàíñêðèïöèåé íå îòìå÷àåòñÿ (êðîìå ñëîâ ñàíñêðèòñêîãî ïðîèñõîæäåíèÿ), à òàêæå â êîíöå ñëîâà è åãî îñíîâû îáû÷íî íå ïðîèçíîñèòñÿ. [ÀÀ] – äîëãèé ãëàñíûé çâóê è ïðîèçíîñèòñÿ áîëåå ïðîòÿæíî. [È] – êàê ðóññêîå [è] â ñëîâå «ìèð». Ïîä óäàðåíèåì ïðîèçíîñèòñÿ òâåðäî. [ÈÈ] – äîëãèé ãëàñíûé çâóê ïðîèçíîñèòñÿ áîëåå ïðîòÿæíî, òâåðäî è áëèçîê ê ðóññêîìó [è], íàïðèìåð, â ñëîâå «ëèïà». [Ó] – êðàòêèé ãëàñíûé çâóê. Ïðîèçíîøåíèå ýòîãî çâóêà áëèçêî ê ðóññêîìó áåçóäàðíîìó [ó] â ñëîâå «ðóêàâ». [ÓÓ] – äîëãèé ãëàñíûé çâóê, ïðîèçíîñèòñÿ ïðîòÿæíî è áëèçîê ê ðóññêîìó çâóêîâîìó àíàëîãó â ñëîâå «ðóññêèé». [Å] – äîëãèé ãëàñíûé çâóê è ïðîèçíîñèòñÿ êàê ðóññêîå [ý] â ñëîâå ýòè. [Î] – äîëãèé ãëàñíûé çâóê, áëèçîê ïî ïðîèçíîøåíèþ ê ðóññêîìó [î] â ñëîâå «îêî». Âî âñåõ ñëó÷àÿõ ïðîèçíîñèòñÿ îò÷åòëèâî, à çàìåíà åãî çâóêîì, áëèçêèì ê [à] â íåóäàðíûõ ñëîâàõ, íåäîïóñòèìà. 2. Äèôòîíãè.  ÿçûêå õèíäè èìåþòñÿ ñëåäóþùèå äèôòîíãè: [ÀÈ], [ÀÓ]. [ÀÈ] – äîëãèé ãëàñíûé çâóê, ñîñòîèò èç äâóõ ýëåìåíòîâ è ïðîèçíîñèòñÿ ñëèòíî, â îäèí ñëîã. Èìååò ôîíåòè÷åñêèå âàðèàíòû: [ÝÈ], [ÀÉ], [ÝÉ]. [ÀÓ] – äîëãèé ãëàñíûé çâóê ñîñòîèò èç äâóõ ýëåìåíòîâ è òàêæå ïðîèçíîñèòñÿ ñëèòíî â îäèí ñëîã. Èìååò ôîíåòè÷åñêèé âàðèàíò [ÎÓ]. 3. Íàçàëèçîâàííûå èëè íîñîâûå ãëàñíûå â õèíäè ñîîòâåòñòâóþò êàæäîìó ÷èñòîìó ãëàñíîìó, íî ïðè èõ ïðîèçíîøåíèè íàáëþäàåòñÿ íîñîâîé ðåçîíàíñ. Êàæäàÿ ãëàñíàÿ â õèíäè èìååò íàçàëèçàöèþ èëè ñâîé íîñîâîé âàðèàíò, íàïðèìåð: [À] - [ÀÍ], [ÀÀ] - [ÀÀÍ].  ðóññêîì ÿçûêå íîñîâûõ (íàçàëèçîâàííûõ) ãëàñíûõ íåò. 4. [ÐÈ] - äðåâíåèíäèéñêèé ñëîãîâûé ãëàñíûé. Âñòðå÷àåòñÿ òîëüêî â ñàíñêðèòñêèõ ñëîâàõ.  ðóññêîì ÿçûêå àíàëîãè÷íîãî çâóêà íåò. | |
| | | Civetta Elder
Number of posts : 2095 Age : 30 Location : Florida Registration date : 2007-12-03
| Subject: Re: Learning HINDI Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:33 am | |
| ÏÐÎÈÇÍÎØÅÍÈÅ ÑÎÃËÀÑÍÛÕ ÇÂÓÊÎÂ
Àëôàâèò ÿçûêà õèíäè – ñëîãîâûé: êàæäàÿ ñîãëàñíàÿ ïðîèçíîñèòñÿ ñ êðàòêèì ãëàñíûì [à]. Ñîãëàñíûå çâóêè vianjana äåëÿòñÿ íà 5 ãðóïï è ðàñïîëàãàþòñÿ â àëôàâèòå ïî ìåñòó è ñïîñîáó îáðàçîâàíèÿ. Êðîìå òîãî, îäíîé èç îñîáåííîñòåé ñîãëàñíûõ ÿçûêà õèíäè ÿâëÿåòñÿ íàëè÷èå ïðèäûõàòåëüíûõ çâóêîâ, êîòîðûå ïðîèçíîñÿòñÿ êàê ñëèòíûå äâà çâóêà – ñîãëàñíûé ñ ïðèäûõàíèåì. Ïðè çâîíêèõ ñîãëàñíûõ ïðèäûõàíèå áûâàåò çâîíêîå, à ïðè ãëóõèõ ñîãëàñíûõ – ãëóõîå. Íà ïèñüìå ïðèäûõàòåëüíûå çâóêè èçîáðàæàþòñÿ òàê: [ÊÕÀ], ÃÕÀ], [ÄÕÀ] è ò.ä. 1. Çàäíåíåáíûå ñîãëàñíûå çâóêè ïðîèçíîñÿòñÿ ñëåäóþùèì îáðàçîì: [ÊÀ] – ïðîèçíîñèòñÿ òâåðäî, êàê â ñëîâå «êîò», ïåðåä ãëàñíûì [È] è [ÈÈ]: ïðîèçíîñèòñÿ ìÿãêî, êàê â ñëîâå «êèò»; [ÊÕÀ] – ãëóõîé ïðèäûõàòåëüíûé çâóê è ïðîèçíîñèòñÿ òâåðäî, ñ ïðèäûõàíèåì; [ÃÀ] – â íà÷àëüíîì ñëîãå ýòîò çâóê ñîâïàäàåò ñ ðóññêèì [ã]. Ïåðåä [È] è [ÈÈ] íå ñìÿã÷àåòñÿ è íà êîíöå ñëîâà íå îãëóøàåòñÿ; [ÃÕÀ] – çâîíêèé ïðèäûõàòåëüíûé çâóê.
2. Ïàëàòàëüíûé èëè íåáíûå ñîãëàñíûå çâóêè â õèíäè ñëåäóþùèå: [×À] – ñîãëàñíûé çâóê, àíàëîãè÷åí ïî ïðîèçíîøåíèþ ðóññêîìó [÷] â ñëîâå «÷àé»; [×ÕÀ] – ïðèäûõàòåëüíûé ñîãëàñíûé çâóê, ïðîèçíîñèòñÿ òâåðäî; [ÄÆÀ] – çâîíêèé ñîãëàñíûé çâóê, ïî çâó÷àíèþ íàïîìèíàåò ñî÷åòàíèå ðóññêèõ ñîãëàñíûõ [ä] è [æ], ïðîèçíîñèìûõ ñëèòíî, àíàëîãè÷íîãî çâóêà â ðóññêîì ÿçûêå íåò; [ÄÆÕÀ] – çâîíêèé ïðèäûõàòåëüíûé ñîãëàñíûé çâóê.
3. Ãðóïïà ðåòðîôëåêñíûõ èëè öåðåáðàëüíûõ ñîãëàñíûõ â ÿçûêå õèíäè ÿâëÿåòñÿ åùå îäíîé åãî îñîáåííîñòüþ. Ïðè ïðîèçíîøåíèè ýòèõ çâóêîâ êîí÷èê ÿçûêà ïîäíèìàåòñÿ ââåðõ è çàãèáàåòñÿ ê òâåðäîìó í¸áó.  ðóññêîì ÿçûêå òàêèõ çâóêîâ íåò. Íà ïèñüìå îíè èçîáðàæàþòñÿ îòäåëüíûìè áóêâàìè. [ÒÀ] – í¸áíûé (íå àëüâåîëÿðíûé), òâåðäûé ñîãëàñíûé çâóê; [ÒÕÀ] – ïðèäûõàòåëüíûé, í¸áíûé òâåðäûé ñîãëàñíûé çâóê; [ÄÀ] – í¸áíûé, çâîíêèé ñîãëàñíûé çâóê; [ÄÕÀ] – ïðèäûõàòåëüíûé, í¸áíûé çâîíêèé ñîãëàñíûé çâóê; [ÐÀ] – òâåðäûé, óäàðíûé ñîãëàñíûé çâóê, ïðè ïðîèçíîøåíèè êîòîðîãî êîí÷èê ÿçûêà óäàðÿåòñÿ â ñàìóþ âåðõíþþ ÷àñòü òâåðäîãî í¸áà; [ÐÕÀ] – ïðèäûõàòåëüíûé, óäàðíûé ñîãëàñíûé çâóê.
4. Ãðóïïà äåíòàëüíûõ èëè çóáíûõ ñîãëàñíûõ ïðåäñòàâëÿþò ñîáîé ìÿãêèå ñîãëàñíûå çâóêè, ñîâïàäàþùèå ñî çâóêàìè ðóññêîãî ÿçûêà.  êîíöå ñëîâ íå îãëóøàþòñÿ. Ïðè èõ àðòèêóëÿöèè ÿçûê êàñàåòñÿ çóáîâ: [ÒÀ] – ñîãëàñíûé çâóê; ïðîèçíîñèòñÿ ìÿãêî, íî íå ñìÿã÷àåòñÿ ïåðåä ãëàñíûìè [È] è [ÈÈ]; [ÒÕÀ] – ïðèäûõàòåëüíûé ñîãëàñíûé çâóê; [ÄÀ] – çâîíêèé ñîãëàñíûé çâóê; [ÄÕÀ] – ïðèäûõàòåëüíûé çâîíêèé ñîãëàñíûé çâóê; [ÍÀ] - çóáíîé íîñîâîé ñîãëàñíûé çâóê.
5. Ãóáíûå èëè ëàáèàëüíûå ñîãëàñíûå: [ÏÀ] –ïðîèçíîñèòñÿ êàê ñîîòâåòñòâóþùèé ðóññêèé çâóê; [ÏÕÀ] – ïðèäûõàòåëüíûé ñîãëàñíûé çâóê; [ÁÀ] – çâîíêèé ãóáíîé ñîãëàñíûé çâóê; [ÁÕÀ] – çâîíêèé ïðèäûõàòåëüíûé ñîãëàñíûé çâóê; [ÌÀ] - ãóáíîé ñîãëàñíûé çâóê.
6. Ãðóïïà ïîëóãëàñíûõ çâóêîâ â ÿçûêå õèíäè ïðåäñòàâëåíà ñëåäóþùèìè çâóêàìè: [ÉÀ] – ïîëóãëàñíûé ïëàâíûé çâóê ïî ïðîèçíîøåíèþ áëèçîê ê ðóññêîìó [é]; [ÐÀ] – ïîëóãëàñíûé çâóê, ñõîäåí ñ ðóññêèì [ð]; [ËÀ] - ïîëóãëàñíûé çâóê, ñõîäåí ñ ðóññêèì [ë]; [ÂÀ] - ïîëóãëàñíûé çâóê, ïî ïðîèçíîøåíèþ ñîîòâåòñòâóåò ðóññêîìó [â].  êîíöå ñëîâ ïåðåä ãëóõèìè ñîãëàñíûìè íå îãëóøàåòñÿ è íå ñìÿã÷àåòñÿ ïåðåä ãëàñíûìè [è] è [èè].
7. Ãðóïïà øèïÿùèõ ãëàñíûõ çâóêîâ (ñèáèëÿíòû): [ØÀ] – ìÿãêèé, øèïÿùèé ñîãëàñíûé çâóê. Ñõîäåí ñ ðóññêèì çâóêîì [ø]; [ÑÀ] – òâåðäûé ñîãëàñíûé çâóê, ñîîòâåòñòâóåò ðóññêîìó [ñ] â ñëîâå «ñîð».
8. Ôàðèíãàëüíûé çâóê [ÕÀ] – ýòî ñîãëàñíûé çâóê, íàïîìèíàþùèé ïî çâó÷àíèþ ïðîñòîé âûõîä. Ýòîò çâóê îáðàçóåòñÿ â ãëîòêå (ôàðèíãñå), ÷åðåç êîòîðóþ ïðîõîäèò ñòðóÿ âîçäóõà.  ðóññêîì ÿçûêå àíàëîãè÷íîãî çâóêà íåò.
9. Ãðóïïà çàèìñòâîâàííûõ ñîãëàñíûõ çâóêîâ.  ÿçûêå õèíäè åñòü òàê íàçûâàåìàÿ ãðóïïà ñîãëàñíûõ çâóêîâ, èñïîëüçóþùàÿñÿ äëÿ îòîáðàæåíèÿ çâóêîâ çàèìñòâîâàííîé àðàáî-ïåðñèäñêîé ëåêñèêè. Ê íèì îòíîñÿòñÿ: [ÊÀ] – òâåðäûé ãîðòàííûé çâóê, èñïîëüçóåòñÿ òîëüêî â çàèìñòâîâàííûõ ñëîâàõ.  ðóññêîì ÿçûêå òàêîãî çâóêà íåò. Ïî çâó÷àíèþ íàïîìèíàåò î÷åíü ãëóáîêîå ðóññêîå [ê]; [ÕÀ] – ãëóõîé ãîðòàííûé ñîãëàñíûé çâóê. Ïî çâó÷àíèþ íàïîìèíàåò ãëóáîêîå è íåñêîëüêî õðèïëîå ðóññêîå [õ]. Ïåðåä ãëàñíûìè [è] è [èè] íå ñìÿã÷àåòñÿ è â ðå÷è ÷àñòî çàìåíÿåòñÿ çâóêîì [õ]. [ÃÀ] – çâîíêèé ãîðòàííûé ñîãëàñíûé çâóê, îáðàçóþùèéñÿ òàê æå, êàê è ÕÀ, íî ñ ó÷àñòèåì ãîëîñà.  êîíöå ñëîâà íå îãëóøàåòñÿ è íå òåðÿåò ñâîåé çâîíêîñòè. Ïåðåä ãëàñíûìè [è] è [èè] íå ñìÿã÷àåòñÿ è â ðå÷è ÷àñòî çàìåíÿåòñÿ çâóêîì [ã]. [ÇÀ] – ñîãëàñíûé çâóê áëèçîê ïî ïðîèçíîøåíèþ ê ðóññêîìó çâîíêîìó [ç]; [ÔÀ] – ñîãëàñíûé çâóê. Ïî ïðîèçíîøåíèþ ñîîòâåòñòâóåò çâóêó ðóññêîãî ÿçûêà, íî íå ñìÿã÷àåòñÿ ïåðåä ãëàñíûìè [è] è [èè]. | |
| | | Civetta Elder
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| Subject: Re: Learning HINDI Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:34 am | |
| ÏÐÀÂÈËÀ ÏÐÎÈÇÍÎØÅÍÈß
1. Äîëãîòà è êðàòêîñòü ãëàñíûõ â õèíäè - [À] è [ÀÀ], [È] è [ÈÈ], [Ó] è [ÓÓ] èãðàþò ñìûñëîðàçëè÷èòåëüíóþ ðîëü, íàïðèìåð: ÊÀÌ – ìàëûé, íåçíà÷èòåëüíûé ÊÀÀÌ - ðàáîòà ÄÀË – îòðÿä, ãðóïïà, ïàðòèÿ (ïîëèòè÷åñêàÿ) ÄÀÀË – ÷å÷åâèöà
2. Åñëè â ñëîâå èìåþòñÿ óäâîåííûå ñîãëàñíûå, òî èõ ñëåäóåò ÷åòêî ïðîèçíîñèòü. Óäâîåíèå èãðàåò ñìûñëîðàçëè÷èòåëüíóþ ðîëü. Óäâîåííûå ñîãëàñíûå âñòðå÷àþòñÿ òîëüêî â ñåðåäèíå è êîíöå ñëîâà. Íàïðèìåð, ñëîâî ÁÀ××À (ðåáåíîê) ïî ïðîèçíîøåíèþ îòëè÷àåòñÿ îò ÁÀ×À (óöåëåâøèé). Ñëîâî ÓÑÑÅ (îò òîãî, îò íåãî) îòëè÷àåòñÿ îò ÓÑÅ (åìó, òîìó). Ñëåäóåò îòëè÷àòü óäâîåííûå ñîãëàñíûå îò ñòÿæåíèé îäèíàêîâûõ ñîãëàñíûõ. Êîòîðûå ïðîèçíîñÿòñÿ îòäåëüíî, êàê äâà çâóêà: ÁÀÍÍÀ – ñòàíîâèòñÿ ×ÕÈÍÍÀ – òÿíóòü, îòíèìàòü
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 êîíöå ïîâåñòâîâàòåëüíîãî ïðåäëîæåíèÿ ñòàâèòñÿ âåðòèêàëüíàÿ ÷åðòî÷êà - I (äàíäà).  îñòàëüíîì ïðèíÿòû åâðîïåéñêèå çíàêè ïðåïèíàíèÿ: çàïÿòàÿ, òî÷êà ñ çàïÿòîé, ñêîáêè, òèðå, äåôèñ, êàâû÷êè, âîïðîñèòåëüíûé è âîñêëèöàòåëüíûé çíàêè. | |
| | | Civetta Elder
Number of posts : 2095 Age : 30 Location : Florida Registration date : 2007-12-03
| Subject: Re: Learning HINDI Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:21 am | |
| è òèøèíà ....... Þëÿ! Ïîëèíà! Ïîäêèíóëè áû åùå ÷òî ëè ôðàçî÷åê! | |
| | | Victoria Nestler
Number of posts : 521 Location : Russia Registration date : 2008-01-27
| Subject: Re: Learning HINDI Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:13 am | |
| I found English-Hindi transliteration online. You type hindi words in English and will get them in Devanagari. It's so cool!!! Here is the link | |
| | | Owlet Guardian
Number of posts : 132113 Location : Sovyatnik Registration date : 2006-04-06
| Subject: Re: Learning HINDI Thu Apr 03, 2008 1:29 am | |
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| | | Polyanka Guardian
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| | | | Victoria Nestler
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| | | | Victoria Nestler
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| | | | Civetta Elder
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| | | yulika Guardian
Number of posts : 3701 Age : 43 Location : Gurgaon, India Registration date : 2007-11-19
| Subject: Re: Learning HINDI Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:03 am | |
| I think it might mean "a little spoon", because "chamcha"="chammach" means " a spoon". Ïîäõîäèò? | |
| | | savyonok Elder
Number of posts : 1841 Age : 49 Location : Sovyatnik Registration date : 2006-04-06
| Subject: Re: Learning HINDI Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:07 am | |
| You call a person A, a chamchi of person B when A always follows/supports B. It is more like a boot-licker and is a negative adjective. Chamchi is feminine, chamcha is masculine. Related words in English: Obsequious, Subservient | |
| | | Civetta Elder
Number of posts : 2095 Age : 30 Location : Florida Registration date : 2007-12-03
| Subject: Re: Learning HINDI Tue Apr 29, 2008 1:27 am | |
| thanks guys but in my case is more suitable savyonok's variant whole phrase in the book sounds like this: ... she's just a 'chamchi'; you like her because she massages your ego ... | |
| | | Polyanka Guardian
Number of posts : 5265 Age : 43 Registration date : 2007-01-27
| Subject: Re: Learning HINDI Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:41 am | |
| Âîïðîñû ìîè, îòâåòû Þëèíû - Quote :
- Íåêîòîðûå èíäèéöû îáðàùàþòñÿ ê auto-walÿì èñêëþ÷èòåëüíî íà tu, ìîé ìóæ èíîãäà äàæå íà aap ß ïðåäïî÷èòàþ tum, òîëüêî åñëè ïîæèëîé, òîãäà aap
"Ìåòð" ðàáîòàåò? - meter chal raha hai? / meter thik hai?Ïî "ìåòðó" ïîåäåòå? - meter se chaloge? Ïîåõàëè ïî ìèòåðó - meter se chalo Ýòî âîçëå/ðÿäîì... - yeh ..... ke paas hai / ke nazdeek hai ß ïîõîæà íà äóðó? - main tumhe pagal lag rahi hoon????? è ëèöî ïîñòðàøíåå ñäåëàé Ýòî ñëèøêîì äîðîãî! - yeh bahut mehenga hai!!! / yeh bahut zyada hai!!! Ñëèøêîì ìíîãî ïðîñèøü - bahut zyada maang rahe ho 80 ðóïèé äî...ýòî ìíîãîâàòî! Äàæå 60 ýòî ìíîãî! - ... tak 80 (assi) rupey kuchh zyada hi hai. 60 (saath) rupey bhi to zyada hai!!! Çà 100 ìåòðîâ è 10 ðóïèé? Àãà ùàñ! Ýòî âàøà îøèáêà/âèíà, à íå ìîÿ. - 100 (so) meter ke 10 rupey doon? Aur kuchh? Yeh tumhari galti hai, meri nahi!! Ïî÷åìó ïîåõàë ýòîé äîðîãîé? - Is raaste se kyon chale? / Is raaste se kyon jaa rahe ho? Åäüòå ÷åðåç/ïî... - Is (wale) raaste (road) se chalo åçæàé ïî äîðîãå âîçëå Äæàíòàð-Ìàíòàð - Jantar-mantar wale road se chalo Çäåñü/ó âîðîò/âîçëå ìàãàçèíà îñòàíîâèòå. - yahan/gate ke paas/shop (dukaan) ke paas ruko Ïðèòîðìîçèòå - ruko èëè åñëè òóïèò òî íàäî ïî÷òè îðàòü ruko-ruko Òóäà åùå ïðîåäüòå. - thoda aage chalo
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| | | Polyanka Guardian
Number of posts : 5265 Age : 43 Registration date : 2007-01-27
| Subject: Re: Learning HINDI Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:42 am | |
| - Quote :
- Çàòóøèòå ñèãàðåòó, òóò âñå-òàêè ìàëåíüêèé ðåáåíîê - cigarette bujhaaiye, yahan chhota bachcha bhi hai.
Ìîæíî ïîãðóáåå: Cigarette bujhaaiye, aapko chhota bachcha nahi dikh raha kya? - Ïîòóøèòå ñèãàðåòó, ÷å íå âèäíî, òóò ìàëåíüêèé ðåáåíîê
Ñêàçàë 40, âîò è äåðæè. - 40 (chaalis) bola, to yeh lo
Ñìîòðè êóäà ïëþåøü/èäåøü! - Dekhke thukna\chalna - íå ñîâñåì êîíå÷íî ïåðåäàåò ðóññêîãî êîëîðèòà, íî âñå æå.
Kya thukne ke liye koi aur jagah (ïðîèçíîñèòñÿ áëèæå ê "äæàãå" (óäàðåíèå íà "å") nahi mili? - ÷å, äëÿ ïëåâêîâ äðóãîãî ìåñòà íå íàøëîñü? è ìîñüêó ñîîòâåòñòâóþùóþ | |
| | | Red owl :) Guardian
Number of posts : 8851 Age : 42 Location : skies Registration date : 2006-04-29
| Subject: Re: Learning HINDI Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:57 am | |
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| | | Civetta Elder
Number of posts : 2095 Age : 30 Location : Florida Registration date : 2007-12-03
| Subject: Re: Learning HINDI Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:07 am | |
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| | | Owlet Guardian
Number of posts : 132113 Location : Sovyatnik Registration date : 2006-04-06
| Subject: Re: Learning HINDI Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:37 pm | |
| - Polyanka wrote:
- Íåêîòîðûå èíäèéöû îáðàùàþòñÿ ê auto-walÿì èñêëþ÷èòåëüíî íà tu, ìîé ìóæ èíîãäà äàæå íà aap ß ïðåäïî÷èòàþ tum, òîëüêî åñëè ïîæèëîé, òîãäà aap
Íà ìîé ëè÷íûé âçãëÿä ÷åì âåæëèâåå, òåì ëó÷øå, ýòî òîæå ïîêàçûâàåò äèñòàíöèþ. ß îáðàùàëàñü ê íèì, êàê è áîëüøèíñòâî, - bhaiya, íî îäíàæäû åõàëè ñî çíàêîìûì, ðèêøàâàëà áûë òàêîé ðåçêèé, âåç î÷åíü áûñòðî è ðåçêî êàê òî... ...òàê âîò çíàêîìûé ê íåìó îáðàùàëñÿ - bhaisahib - ÿ òàê îáàëäåëà, à çíàêîìûé ñêàçàë, ÷òî íå õî÷åò, ÷òîáû òîò íàñ â êàêóþ êàíàâó çàâåç... ...÷åì ïî÷òèòåëüíåå, òåì îíè ïîñëóøíåé... (Ïîëèíà, â Èíäèè äëÿ ðàçãîâîðîâ â òàêèõ ñëó÷àÿõ òîí 1.1 - ñàìûé ïîäõîäÿùèé, 1.5-2 - ìíîãîâàòî äëÿ íèõ áóäåò ) - Polyanka wrote:
- "Ìåòð" ðàáîòàåò? - meter chal raha hai? / meter thik hai?Ïî "ìåòðó" ïîåäåòå? - meter se chaloge?
Ïîåõàëè ïî ìèòåðó - meter se chalo È åùå...ÿ áû íå íà÷èíàëà ðàçãîâîð ñ âîïðîñà: Ìèòð ðàáîòàåò? Ýòî äàåò åìó âîçìîæíîñòü ñîîáðàçèòü è îòâåòèòü ÍÅÒ . ß âñåãäà ïîâåëèòåëüíî ãîâîðèëà: meter se , à ïîòîì óæå, åñëè îí îòâå÷àë: meter karabh hai - íà÷èíàëà òîðãîâàòüñÿ. Åñëè çíàåøü ñêîëüêî ýòî ñòîèò - íàäî ïðîñòî íàçûâàòü ñâîþ ñóììó.  îáùåì îíè äîëæíû ïîíèìàòü, ÷òî òû âñå çíàåøü è èõ íîìåð òóò íå ïðîéäåò... - Polyanka wrote:
- Ïîòóøèòå ñèãàðåòó, ÷å íå âèäíî, òóò ìàëåíüêèé ðåáåíîê
Òóò ïîäðàçóìåâàåòñÿ, ÷òî îíè ïîíèìàþò, ÷òî íå íàäî êóðèòü ïðè äåòÿõ...à îíè ýòîãî íå ïîíèìàþò...ïîýòîìó ëó÷øå ïðîñòî ïîïðîñèòü íå êóðèòü. | |
| | | yulika Guardian
Number of posts : 3701 Age : 43 Location : Gurgaon, India Registration date : 2007-11-19
| Subject: Re: Learning HINDI Wed Apr 30, 2008 12:36 am | |
| - Owlet wrote:
- Íà ìîé ëè÷íûé âçãëÿä ÷åì âåæëèâåå, òåì ëó÷øå, ýòî òîæå ïîêàçûâàåò äèñòàíöèþ.
ß òîæå ïðåäïî÷èòàþ äèñòàíöèþ. Íî ñîâñåì èõ óíèæàòü íå ñ÷èòàþ ïðèåìëèìûì. ïîìíþ, îäèí ðàç åõàëà â auto ðèêøå ñ Íàñòèíûì è Îëüãèíûì æåíèõàìè òîãäà åùå. Äåâ òàê ãðóáî ðàçãîâàðèâàë ñ ðèêøåâàëåé, íà "tu", è òîí ó íåãî áûë ñîîòâåòñòâóþùèé, ìåíÿ àæ ïåðåäåðíóëî. Åñëè áû ìîé ìóæ òàê ðàçãîâàðèâàë, õîòü áû è ñ ðèêøåé, ÿ áû åãî îñàäèëà. Îäèí ðàç ìû êàê-òî åõàëè íà âåëîðèêøå ñ íèì, è îí ÷òî-òî óæ î÷åíü ãðîìêî ñòàë ðàñïðîñòðàíÿòüñÿ î áèõàðöàõ, òàê ÿ åìó ìÿãêî òàê îáúÿñíèëà, ÷òî õîòü îíè è áåæåíöû, íî îíè ëþäè, è íå íàäî òàê èõ óíèæàòü. Îíè áåäíûå, ó íèõ êàðìà òàêàÿ, à ýòîò âåçåò ñåáå è âåçåò ñïîêîéíåíüêî. Êîðî÷å ìóæà ïðîíÿëî (âîò òóò è íóæíà ìîñüêà ñ íîæêîé ) - Owlet wrote:
- È åùå...ÿ áû íå íà÷èíàëà ðàçãîâîð ñ âîïðîñà: Ìèòð ðàáîòàåò? Ýòî äàåò åìó âîçìîæíîñòü ñîîáðàçèòü è îòâåòèòü ÍÅÒ . ß âñåãäà ïîâåëèòåëüíî ãîâîðèëà: meter se , à ïîòîì óæå, åñëè îí îòâå÷àë: meter kharab hai - íà÷èíàëà òîðãîâàòüñÿ. Åñëè çíàåøü ñêîëüêî ýòî ñòîèò - íàäî ïðîñòî íàçûâàòü ñâîþ ñóììó.  îáùåì îíè äîëæíû ïîíèìàòü, ÷òî òû âñå çíàåøü è èõ íîìåð òóò íå ïðîéäåò...
Òû çíàåøü, ÿ òîæå íèêîãäà íå ñïðàøèâàþ íàñ÷åò ìèòåðà. Îíè äåéñòâèòåëüíî ñðàçó ñêàæóò, ÷òî "meter kharab". Êñòàòè, îíè ïî íåìó âîîáùå óæå íå åçäÿò, íàõàëû. ÿ ïðèìåðíî çíàþ, ñêîëüêî ìîæåò âûéòè, ïîýòîìó òîðãóþñü èñõîäÿ èç ýòîãî. | |
| | | Civetta Elder
Number of posts : 2095 Age : 30 Location : Florida Registration date : 2007-12-03
| Subject: Re: Learning HINDI Wed Apr 30, 2008 1:18 am | |
| Never mind with all this nakhra. Cant hear you, huzoor. What does nakhra&huzoor mean?
It is very useful to read books by Indian authors time to time they use indian words or full sentences:
1. Humara kya hoga, hai hai, humara kya hoga (what will happen to us) is it correct? 2. Bar bar karta rehta hai 3. Zindagi migzara (life goes) 4. Mera joota hai japani ... Bombay se aaya mera dost - Oi!
and as for others ... dunno | |
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